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  Not Inspired, Not Infallible

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it occurred to me this morning while one the train to work that jw's, including my family, use the following weasel phrases to excuse the errors they've made over the years:.

  "god uses imperfect men".

  "jesus didn't say he'd give perfect spiritual food".

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  "God uses imperfect men", "Jesus didn't say he'd give perfect spiritual food", "The GB are neither inspired, nor infallible", "There are some who are corrupt but Jehovah will sort out his organization".
  

  Spot on Pale Emperor! I was discussing these J.W. "justifications/conversation stoppers" with Mrs. Searcher recently, as well as the one at the top of their list, "No other religion is fulfilling Matthew 24:14, so that proves that we are God's people."

  If they do a Google search, they'll find out differently.
  
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  TTATT 

  by CitizenofEarth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello folks.

  you might have seen me here once before - im as new as it most likely gets to this place and the thoughts accompanied with it.

  ive seen the expression ttatt several times, and i now know it means "the truth about the truth".

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  You have a P.M.
  
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  Being part of the org essential for salvation

  by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  good evening,.

  i am in search of recent articles in the watchtower, or in other articles that are available on jw.org, that explain that one has to be part of the organisation as a condition for salvation.. i can only find articles on sites other than jw.org that are from before the year 2000. .

  it is for discussions with a jw, so i can only use things from jw.org.. thanks in advance.

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  Like jokes, the old ones are the best!! :)
  

  w83 2/15 p. 12 You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth—But How?

  "A third requirement is that we be associated with God’s channel, his organization. God has always???? used an organization. For example, only those in the ark in Noah’s day survived the Flood, and only those associated with the Christian congregation in the first century had God’s favor.* (Acts 4:12) Similarly, Jehovah is using only one organization today to accomplish his will. To receive everlasting life in the earthly Paradise we must identify that organization and serve God as part of it."

  * Oh yeah?

  (Mark 9:40, 41) "For whoever is not against us is for us. And whoever gives you a cup of water to drink because you belong to Christ, I tell you truly, he will by no means lose his reward."
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  March 19, 2017 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS IN THE UNITED STATES BRANCH TERRITORY Re: Guest Rooming for Publishers Visiting Bethel Facilities

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  march 19, 2017 to all congregations in the united states branch territory re: guest rooming for publishers visiting bethel facilities.

  bethel visitors guest room request—instructions.

  bethel visitors guest room request.

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  Your efforts are much appreciated Wifibandit. Thanks.
  
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  How deep is the rot?

  by JeffT in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  by now it seems obvious that the gb and other leaders of the wtbs are corrupt.

  the pedo scandal and various financial schemes are sustained by either lack of concern or greed at the top.

  my question is how far down the food chain does this go?

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  Two classes of elders in my view:
  

  1) I have a relative who is a dyed-in-the-wool J.W. elder, and trusts the org implicitly. Totally loyal & blinded.

  2) Elder who has seen and learned so much that he seriously & privately rejects many of the org's changes and teachings, but can't/won't exit for personal reasons; loss of family/friends, position in the congregation, or the old chestnut - "where else can we go?"
  
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  Australian Congregations announce Child Safeguarding Policy is available upon request

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this week all congregations in australia have been instructed to make the following announcement:.

  if a member of the congregation would like a copy of the child safeguarding policy of jehovah’s witnesses in australia, please see the coordinator of the body of elders or the secretary.. .

  childsafeguardingpolicy-eau.pdf.

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  As far as I'm aware, the congregations in the U.K. used to be obliged by law to display a copy of their insurance certificate on the Kingdom Hall notice board. (Of course that changed when the org decided to take the insurance premiums and insure the properties themselves)

  Pin the Safeguarding Policy on the Kingdom Hall notice board for all to see - non-J.W.'s included.
  
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  NWT is the finest translation of the Bible available to mankind. WTF

  by Buster k in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this nugget of spiritual bullcrap is in there 2014 yearbook on page 4. .

  paragraph 2. early in this service year, at the annual meeting of the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, the new world bible translation committee released the newly revised english edition of the finest translation of the bible available to mankind.

  jehovah used his own spirit-begotten sons to provide the original new world translation.

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  "Jehovah used his own [allegedly] spirit-begotten sons to provide the original New World Translation."

  Pity they couldn't count up between 32 & 35 - then they could've got the chapters of the Bible book of Numbers in sequence in their updated, inaccurate/corrupted "silver sword" translation. (see chapter headings on pages 266 & 267)
  
  
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  Has anyone here joined a different church after ditching the JWs?

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am just curious.. i have a cousin who is a baptist and his church streams their sunday services and i've been checking them out before i go to meeting with my jw wife.. i haven’t been to a church except for the occasional funeral and wedding and the only sermons i had heard were the tel-evangelist type.

  anyway, all the church bashing by jws over the years made me unsure what to expect and i was pleasantly surprised.

  they do use the bible and they don't spend the whole time begging for money.

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  "Religion is a snare and a racket."

  Probably the only profound and true statement ever to come out of JFR's mouth!
  
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  Propaganda video from the society. How are your donations used?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  oh wow....how manipulative, especially for young ones.. first prize goes to whoever can state the one aspect of society expenditure that this video fails to mention!.

  https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodourorganization/pub-jwbrd_201505_1_video.

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  Massive legal fees for lawyers who defend the org's paedophile lawsuits?
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  Hello

  by S K Ditta in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello everyone.. have visited this site several times over the past year or so.. thanks for letting all have an opportunity to interact.. hope that, words uttered result in good - now or later!

  that's the wish..

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  The Searcher

  Welcome S K Ditta. I hope you benefit yourself and others by joining us here.